Always Start With Small Quantities
H.B. Woodrose (extract)
Citation: Finn. "Always Start With Small Quantities: An Experience with H.B. Woodrose (extract) (exp107140)". Erowid.org. Jan 20, 2025. erowid.org/exp/107140
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0.4 g | oral | H.B. Woodrose | (extract) |
BODY WEIGHT: | 70 kg |
Trip Experience.
Consuming the LSA extract
13:00: I put a small quantity of the extract (less than 50mg but below my scale accuracy) in peppermint oil and left it in the dark for one hour. I didn’t feel very well to start with, so I took a very small quantity just to check for side effects.
14:00: I swallowed the material and set down to watch an episode of Adventure Time. I assumed I would get a very weak effect from such a small quantity.
15:00: After I finish watching the show, I noticed things look sharper and clearer (similar to LSD). I had some minor unpleasant feeling and decided to go outside. The effect was clear and strong. I realized the material was either much stronger than I assumed or I have mistakenly taken much more than I intended.
I realized the material was either much stronger than I assumed or I have mistakenly taken much more than I intended.
15:00-16:00: I took a walk outside; the unpleasant effect was by this point very clear mainly as general headache and general bad feeling but nothing too disturbing. There was an unusual clarity to everything, but no clear visual distortion. I walked in a familiar rocky path, in the mountain near my house, with no real difficulty. I found a nice place to sit down and spent about 40 minutes watching the view. Looking at things aroused very strong associations, feeling and memories which soon turn into a very vivid day dreaming. The experience was rather pleasant.
16:00: I decided to go back. I stopped often for some more daydreaming.
16:30: I came home and lay down for a while. At this point I realized I was feeling very bad. Maybe due to the lack of external stimulants this feeling became very clear. I drank water and ate sugar cubes which didn’t improve my feeling. I watched some more episodes of Adventure Time, which helped, pass some time.
17:30: Watching TV was no longer providing an effective distraction. I felt terrible, my head hurts, I have feverish feeling and I was sweating heavily. My vision was now similar to a weak LSD trip with minor distortion and illusionary movement specifically when looking at psychedelic images. This, however, was little comfort. I found myself drifting in and out of daydreams. I considered going for another walk, but realize that in my condition it would be too risky, instead decided to lay down.
I lay down in the darkness of my bedroom feeling very bad and feverish just waiting for the trip to be over. I wasn’t scared, knowing that it will not last for more than a few hours and that even the worst trips have their value. As I lay fragments of my life started to surface in my mind, mainly bad parts failures and things I wasn’t satisfied with or neglected. Quoting Nick Cave: “my life pass before my eyes, it was a horror to behold”. Fragments of my mind that was in some kind of balance in the everyday life was now struggling inside me. Every time I tried to reach some resolution some other thought would rise and break it. For a seemingly long while I was locked in this inner struggle. I felt great despair of my life, which was made worse by my general bad feeling. But after some time I started to take the outside view of this mental struggle and become rather amuse by the experience. I raised my hand and watched it move in the darkness, and I realize I was watching it with closed eyes which was again rather amusing.
20:00: I felt better the feverish feeling was growing weaker. I drank some water and green tea, ate some sugar cubes and decided to go for a walk.
Conclusion.
I spent the next day thinking about the experience and realizing that many of the thought about my life I found so painful during the process was things I neglected and reached some resolutions. From a perspective of a few months later, some have turned out wrong, which kind of prove that drug induced enlightenment should not be taken too seriously. The next few days were very creative in my work as a scientist. My other LSA trips were also followed by similar breakthroughs in my research, and I assume there is some connection.
All together this was very strong and unpleasant experience both physically and mentally, but none theless still valuable in its way. I am still not sure why the effect was so strong for such small amount of material. It could be the peppermint oil have reacted with the alkaloids intended (I have read an unconfirmed idea that the peppermint react with the LSA to form LSH which seem to have much higher toxicity than LSA). I later tried the same extraction procedure using Ololiuqui seeds and no peppermint oil, and found it to have much more pleasant effect and no side effect. It could be that given the high alkaloid contents of Hawaiian baby rose there need for some more advanced separation techniques like acid base extraction to get the clean material. I guess my main lesson from this is when trying new material always start with small quantities.
I guess my main lesson from this is when trying new material always start with small quantities.
LSA Extraction Procedure.
I used about 50 seeds of Hawaiian baby rose (Hawaiian strands), I scratch as much of the whitish stain on the seed shell as I understand they contain Cyanogenic glycosides which release toxic cyanide when consumed. I grind the seeds in a coffee grinder and cover the resulting powder in naphtha (zippo lighter Floyd) for four days, after which I filtered the solution with a filter paper (coffee filter). I kept the powder and discard the liquid. I immerse the powder in naphtha again and repeated the procedure. After which I immerse the ground seed in ethanol (97%) waited for 3 days and filter the ethanol with the dissolved LSA derivatives. I let the ethanol extract evaporate in an open plate for several days. After several days the ethanol evaporated completely. I was left with yellowish material on the bottom of the plate I scratch this material, which should in theory be the LSA extract. Weighted this was about 0.4 grams (about 5% of the original seed weight). The material was not white but rather greenish yellowish and a little moist implying that it wasn’t a pure LSA. I mixed the material with peppermint oil for 60 minutes before consumption. The peppermint oil suppose to give a much stronger effect, although I couldn’t find a clear explanation as to why.
Exp Year: 2014 | ExpID: 107140 |
Gender: Male | |
Age at time of experience: 32 | |
Published: Jan 20, 2025 | Views: 26 |
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