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The Final Frontier
3-Methyl-PCP & Various
Citation:   RCEdison. "The Final Frontier: An Experience with 3-Methyl-PCP & Various (exp118380)". Erowid.org. Apr 29, 2025. erowid.org/exp/118380

 
DOSE:
T+ 0:00
10 mg insufflated 3-Methyl-PCP (powder / crystals)
  T+ 0:00 4.8 g oral Kratom  
  T+ 1:45 10 mg insufflated 3-Methyl-PCP (powder / crystals)
  T+ 1:45 2.5 mg oral Benzodiazepines  
  T+ 3:30   vaporized Cannabis - High THC  
  T+ 5:15 10 mg insufflated 3-Methyl-PCP (powder / crystals)
  T+ 0:00 300 mg oral Pharms - Bupropion (daily)
  T+ 0:00 30 mg oral Pharms - Citalopram (daily)
BODY WEIGHT: 135 lb
Substances: 3-Me-PCP (primarily), low doses of cannabis, kratom, and bromonordiazepam. Two prescription antidepressants: bupropion and citalopram.

3-Me-PCP: The Final Frontier

Background:

I have extensive experience with psychoactive substances, including dissos. 3-Me-PCP will be the 15th arylcyclohexylamine I've tried. Reports for this one are scarce compared to other dissos, and it is definitely worth discussing. So, I decided to write a comprehensive report about it.

I use psychedelics about once a month and dissos around once every week or two. I have a busy schedule, though, so I often just don't have time to get blasted. I'm weaning myself off of kratom and benzodiazepines - I'm using bromonordiazepam/desalkylgidazepam for my taper.
I'm weaning myself off of kratom and benzodiazepines - I'm using bromonordiazepam/desalkylgidazepam for my taper.
My doses are quite low, though - I only take enough to stave off withdrawals. I'm also prescribed 300 mg bupropion and 30 mg citalopram for depression: I took these medications earlier in the day. That said, based on prior experience and research, I don't anticipate any meaningful interactions.

My headspace going into this experience is generally positive. I'm doing well at a very competitive school, maintain 2 jobs, and have a satisfactory social and romantic life. I'm optimistic about the future.

Dosing and Potency:

I have a notable perma-tolerance for dissos. For reference, I would need around 250-300 mg of ketamine to be satisfied. As such, the doses in this report should not be taken as recommendations. I've read that 3-Me-PCP's potency is closer to 3-HO-PCP than 3-MeO-PCP, and I dosed accordingly. It is most certainly active at doses as small as 2-3 mg, and it has a very steep dose-response curve - a single mg can make the difference between recreational doses and total incapacitation.

Weighing my dose was tricky, even with my fancy scale. I'll make a solution next time, but I'm short on supplies and time today. So, I measured 20 mg, then split that into two lines. My tolerance grants me a little wiggle room here, but this drug really should be dosed volumetrically.

Live Report:

T- 0:00. It's 5:30 PM. I insufflate ~10 mg 3-Me-PCP, and take 4.8 g kratom orally. My initial impression is that this is super caustic - more so than even 3-F-PCP. Snorting even that tiny speck of powder left a slow-burning and noticeable tolerable pain in my right nostril. This is tolerable for me, but this ROA shouldn't be used frequently, as it could very damage your nasal cavity.

T- 0:03. My nose is running pretty badly, but thankfully I'm not bleeding. I'll use some saline after I take a shower. I'm already feeling an increase in energy; my bodily self-awareness is slowly fading as the analgesic effects set in. I left the remaining ~10 mg out in case I want to re-dose in a couple hours, as 3-Me-PCP seems to have a pretty short duration.

T- 0:20. The pain has markedly increased. I had to get out of the shower because of how badly it burns - I can literally feel it eating away at my nose. I'll do a saline flush ASAP. If I re-dose, I'll definitely try oral.

The numbness is steadily progressing, and the stimulation is kicking in. I was thinking of making myself a coffee before, but I'm now comfortably alert. The stimulation isn't forced or uncomfortable - it feels quite natural.

T- 0:53. I'm experiencing noticeable time constriction: I've been writing for half an hour, but it only felt like 10 minutes. My focus has increased significantly - once I sat down at the computer, I was totally locked in. I could waste a lot of time on this stuff - once I start a task, the inertia to continue working on that specific task is strong. In this way, 3-Me-PCP reminds me of amphetamine, but smoother - perhaps it's closer to cocaine. In this case, though, I'm actually producing writing, whereas on amphetamine I'd just rewrite the same sentence over and over for hours.

T - 1:07. I'm confident that I've hit the peak. The analgesia has fully set in; however, at this dosage, it isn't interfering with my motor control or speech. My nose doesn't hurt anymore, which is nice.

The effects are broadly similar to 3-Meo-PCP. I'm experiencing mild mania: stimulation, inflated confidence, talkativeness, euphoria, etc. However, 3-Me-PCP is distinctly more functional than 3-Meo-PCP. I could definitely tell them apart in a blind test. The effects are oddly subtle, and the stimulation is less forced. Subjectively, I feel totally functional, clear-headed, and energized. That said, I get a feeling that higher doses would be incapacitating. I can see delusions of sobriety becoming an issue - this aspect of the high reminds me of 3-HO-PCP. I'd also describe the high as "warm," whereas the other -PCPs are generally "cold." This warmth reminds me most of 3-HO-PCE.

Interestingly, 3-Me-PCP largely lacks the introspective and serious headspace characteristic of other -PCP compounds. Those experiences can be quite positive and meaningful, and I manage them well. However, I can't go out in public on 3-F-PCP or 3-HO-PCP. I always slur my words; combined with mania, delusions, and significant loss of motor control, I could never pass as sober. 3-Meo-PCP is also relatively functional, but less so than 3-Me-PCP. This would be a great party drug.

T - 1:30. The mania and stimulation are slowly subsiding - the "rush" of 3-Me-PCP is markedly shorter than 3-MeO-PCP. The high isn't over, though - it's just transitioning to a new, even milder phase, characterized slight disassociation, vague warmth, and analgesia.

T - 1:45. While still pleasant, this is honestly a bit dull in comparison to before, so I used the remaining 10 mg. This time, I encapsulated it and took it orally. This substance is very prone to compulsive redosing. Since I'm not doing much today, this isn't an issue this time. However, it could prove problematic under different circumstances. While I'm at it, I also take my maintenance dose of 2.5 mg bromonordiazepam.

T - 2:00. The high is definitely wearing off now - 3-Me-PCP really doesn't last too long, at least when insufflated. My oral dose hasn't hit yet, though, and maybe that'll last longer.

I actually appreciate the brevity of this experience. 3-F-PCP leaves me out of it for a whole 24 hours; with 3-Me-PCP, I'm approaching baseline in just 2 hours. On the flip side, though, the short duration makes it tempting to use frequently. I'll need to be very careful with this one. As a PCP analog, it inherently demands respect. Additionally, 3-Me-PCP is a strong appetite suppressant - I can still eat, but I almost forgot to make dinner. I'm a bit dehydrated, too. In the future, I'll set reminders to nourish myself.

T - 3:00. The effects from the oral dose begin to manifest.

T- 3:30. I believe I've reached the second peak. The effects are identical to IN, but since the high comes on more gradually, there's less of a "rush." It's still quite enjoyable, though. I smoke some weed and eat a little something, and now I'm just relaxing.

T- 5:15. I admit I'm prone to redosing dissos, and since I don't have much to do today or tomorrow, I decided to take another ~10 mg IN, measured via the same method mentioned earlier. Yet again, it hurts pretty bad. For some reason, though, I associate the pain with the rush, so I don't really mind it. Perhaps I'm a bit of a masochist.

T - 6:00. The high has kicked back in - I'm doing some reading for a class. After having dosed a few times, I can clearly feel it building up in my system. I predict that high doses would be incapacitating, and that there would be only a brief middle ground between functionality and non-existence. It seems the primary stage of the high intranasally lasts only about 2-3 hours. Though there is some lingering stimulation and mania, it's not all that significant, at least from my perspective.

T - 8:00. I'm now getting ready for bed. I'm watching a YouTube video and editing this report. Yet again, the high is subsiding. I notice some light tinnitus, which is typical for arylcyclohexylamines.

T- 9:00. Back at baseline. I went to sleep around this time (~2:30 AM).

Retrospective and Rambling:

3-Me-PCP is certainly an interesting disso - if not the most fascinating of them all. It reminds me very much of 3-Meo-PCP, as I mentioned, but it shares a certain "psychotic" edge with 3-F-PCP, for a lack of a better term. It's also vaguely reminiscent of cocaine in its stimulation and compulsivity, but it's more functional. Otherwise, though, it's a completely different type of drug.

I've concluded that less is more with this one. Spacing out doses to maintain a low-medium level of intoxication maximizes the positive effects while avoiding incapacitation. It is crucial to note that 3-Me-PCP is highly prone to delusions of sobriety and compulsive redosing.
It is crucial to note that 3-Me-PCP is highly prone to delusions of sobriety and compulsive redosing.
Like 3-HO-PCP, it builds up in your system when dosed daily. Over time, this can fundamentally reshape your perception of reality. This is somewhat insidious: the process is so gentle that you may not even notice it.

While 3-Me-PCP is not particularly introspective during the peak, it produces unparalleled self-awareness and realizations during the offset. While my estimation of the duration is accurate, the mania and erratic thought patterns last well into the next day, and the realizations I had have stuck with me ever since. I wrote this a while ago, and I've taken it a few times in the intervening weeks. On these occasions, I dosed volumetrically, which is significantly more reliable.

However, the more I use this drug, the less I understand it. 3-Me-PCP is like an endless forest. You know there is more to uncover, and you want discover it all; however, every discovery you make only raises new questions. Yet somehow, it draws you deeper and deeper. Eventually, you find yourself with infinite questions and no answers - you're completely lost, and you've forgotten what you were looking for in the first place.

Oddly, while 3-Me-PCP initially muddled my self-awareness and conception of reality, the opposite occurs as the effects wear off. As I processed my experiences, I encountered an afterglow of profound optimism and heightened self-awareness. I had meaningful realizations about my strengths, weaknesses, traits, needs, and complexes. Understanding the conditions I need to thrive allows me to devise routines and coping strategies that maximize my potential. These experiences further my progress towards self-actualization, resulting in genuine and enduring improvements in my self-efficacy. Now that some time had passed, I can confidently say that these realizations are not mere delusions: instead, they are incisive and productive insights into how I best function in sober life, as well as what conditions are most conducive to my interpersonal, spiritual, academic, and professional growth.

Conclusion:

Out of the ~100 psychoactive substances I've tried, 3-Me-PCP may be the most powerful. It is awesome in the biblical sense: like encountering an angel, it is both wonderful and absolutely terrifying. The depth of the introspection, which feels both natural and alien, is comparable only to 3-F-PCP. Unlike 3-F-PCP or 3-Meo-PCP, though, 3-Me-PCP is paradoxically superficial and profound. It induces such significant shifts in perception that you very well might forget you are under the influence. As a result, it is on a completely different level from other arycyclohexylamines. It truly is a formidable beast.

3-Me-PCP is rife with contradictions: it is simultaneously intense and subtle, delusional and clear-headed, and confusing and enlightening. These paradoxes render the experience borderline incomprehensible. Honestly, 3-Me-PCP is nothing short of a total mindfuck. This drug is truly the final frontier. Unless you have extensive experience with powerful dissos/psychs, a firm grip on reality, and thorough control over your psyche, this substance could very well drive you off the deep end. So, while my 3-Me-PCP odyssey was immensely rewarding, I cannot in good faith recommend it to anyone.

I hope this report proves helpful, or at least interesting. It took me hours, and thousands of words, to even begin to describe this substance. 3-Me-PCP is an exceptionally powerful and unique - I cannot emphasize this enough. While writing this out definitely helped me process my experience, I still haven't completely wrapped my head around it. Truthfully, I don't know if I ever will.

Thank you for reading all this - I truly appreciate it. Stay safe, everyone.

Exp Year: 2024ExpID: 118380
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 21
Published: Apr 29, 2025Views: 16
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